Continuing on from Anti-Semitic Tropes, Vociferously Condemned, now looking at the relative success or otherwise of the improbable pair of the Movement in Australia, and Indonesia from the mid 1960s, and the role of religion or religiosity therein.
In the short term Catholic Action/the Movement/National Civic Council/Democratic Labor Party was successful, in that it broke the back of communist influence in the unions and kept the Labor Party out of office for decades, and it succeeded because it had a large, highly motivated, grassroots organisation, made up mostly of churchgoing Catholics. These church people provided a solid bloc of voters for the DLP, and foot-soldiers in the union wars (a practical example for the latter is: at union elections Movement people would door knock the members’ homes and say something simple like “If you’re a Communist voter I won’t waste your time, but if not vote for … Jack Hanrahan [or whichever hard-faced mick it was]”.
Longer term, it was a miserable failure, in that its heartland was Victoria, which is now probably the most left wing place in the country, and as they say on aus/pol, “nuke Melbourne”. It failure was due overwhelmingly to the collapse in religiosity and church attendance that happened somewhere around 1970 in most Western countries with the partial exception of the United States.
From previous post:
“In Indonesia in the mid to late 60s a gigantic communist movement was defeated primarily by some sort of secular-nationalist minded military men, but they allied with Muslim groups that wanted an Islamic state, the main one of which was the very big clerical-civic organisation Nahdlatul Ulama, which doubled as a large political party, its para-military youth wing being harnessed to help the army in basically the killing or general terrorising of people who supported the Communist Party. Once the military had established control they gradually froze out this group from government and politics, wore them down over many years, and eventually Nahdlatul Ulama more or less threw in the towel, formally abandoning the goal of an Islamic state, and withdrawing from politics.”
On the eve of its liquidation in 1965 the Communist Party of Indonesia was supposedly the third largest such party in the world, after PRC and USSR, at about three million members, and it was very dynamic and by local standards extremely well organised and its real strength was in its ancillary and front organisations, for workers, peasants, women, youth, and culture vulture thinker types, and in total probably around 20% of the entire population of the country had some connection to it.
Prior to 1965 there had been several state crackdowns on it, under the Dutch in the 1920s, and by the national government in the 1950s, which in the first case involved a lot of arrests, and in the second the bloody crushing of an uprising in one town, but in both cases the organisation as a whole survived mostly untouched, and it quickly bounced back. What happened in 1965-66 however was at such scale and ferocity that within a short time the whole vast thing, body and tentacles, gave the appearance of having vanished into thin air, and it never recovered, and for what it’s worth, remains banned to this democratic day.
So something instructive there, but getting into the details of it is going to be unpalatable for many, in that it involved a lot of gruesome butchery, but well, it worked.
But how long did it “work” overall, in terms of whether there was a later resurgence of Leftism? Probably worth bearing in mind the counter example of Spain after Franco here, and the question of people abandoning their forefathers’ religion, or not doing that.
The New Order regime under General Suharto lasted 1968-98, and for its first about 15 years its attitude towards the majority religion, Islam, was similar to that of governments in the first twenty years after independence in 1945, which is, somewhat guarded, as there had been several localised Islamic rebellions against a perceived-to-be illegitimate secular system in that time, one of which turned into a decade long insurgency in rural areas not that far from the capital, and the new regime did some things which almost seemed designed to irritate the “right wing” Muslims, such as, humorously, banning public servants from having more than one wife, and requiring all other men who wished to take a second bride to prove the wherewithal to feed two families, and get the signed permission of wife the first.
Bas-relief on a monument to the events of 1965
By the early 1980s however Suharto seemed to become more personally religious, and the regime pivoted quite strongly towards religion and began, or at least spurred on, a social Islamisation process, while still keeping a thumb on (political) Islamism and probably trying to undercut it. For example they embarked on a mammoth mosque building program to the point where today you can’t walk more than fifty metres in any direction without coming across yet another soulless uninteresting assemblage of concrete slabs arranged into a mosque.
When he was forced to resign in the economic turmoil of 1998 the place became a fully farcical democracy, but on the whole there was not a sharp break from the immediate past, elections simply went from being controlled to open, and the Islamisation process continued, and sped up.
It’s a “democracy” in a similar way to Australia being a “democracy”, that is, there is an overarching consensus on some topics and you are not allowed to deviate from it. Here, it’s anything to do with race, immigration, and multiculturalism, as one, there, it’s the role of religion in public life, a politician cannot question it, it’s not just a career killer, but depending on the reference he uses he may spend up to five years in jail for blasphemy. The consensus on religion there is policed on both sides however, from the Left (secularism, blasphemy), but also on the Right (Islamism, any Muslim group the authorities regard as extreme, exclusive, hateful towards non-Muslims).
I’m suggesting that Indonesia is a kind of success story, in at least some ways, that the counter revolution or reaction of 1965 was not a brief bright light that flickered out quickly, was for nought in the long run, as in Spain, but lives on, but if you get into the weeds then there are a lot social counter-currents going on there, they have many of the same problems as elsewhere, rampant materialism, technology addiction, moral hypocrisy on a pretty impressive scale, and they went full lunatic retard on the scamdemic, until today, worse than Australia, but they can send their children to schools that are not festooned with Pervert flags, the kids won’t be taught that the sodomy lifestyle is of equal worth to being normal, they won’t get trooned out, won’t be taught to hate their history and their people, and these are no small things, and it is dependent on so much of the populace including politicians submitting to conservative religious authority, which now has a privileged position in political life.
Without the influence of traditional religion places like Australia and western Europe seem irretrievably lost, America is a partial exception, regionally, but they are plagued by the most lunatic, bizarre manifestations of Clown World as a corollary perhaps. The US, and its gaggle of pathetic lickspittle toady has-been satrapies in Europe plus Japan, and not forgetting (can’t here) and for what it’s worth (not a lot) Australia, is also the biggest threat to places like Indonesia, but with the weakening of Uncle Sodom’s global power there’s a chance it can go its own non-Globohomo way in peace, (non-)aligned with countries like Russia, China, India, etc, barring a global economic collapse.